New laptop - Toshiba Satellite R945-P440

August 20th, 2012 - 06:27 am ET by Chris Ahlstrom | Report spam
Bought that this weekend. The big attraction? A bit more RAM, more
cores, and even more battery life, at the same pricepoint as my old
Acer Aspire 4810T. The downside? 6Gb instead of 8, and some
Toshiba/Microsoft trickery.

I had looked at some discounted variations on HP Pavilions dv6 models,
but read that they supported UEFI, and you needed a Windows install
disk to get around it.

So I buy the Toshiba, turn it on, stick in a Debian net-install disk
and... it boots to Windows. Try it again, but no hot-key to access the
boot order or the BIOS. WTF? I wanted to avoid booting to Windows 7.

So I google and find that the BIOS settings are accessed by a Windows
app (!!!) that Toshiba supplies. I use that app to change the boot
order, and then double-check the rest of the settings, and left them
alone.

Of course, this being Windows, they have to waste a couple partitions
(1 Gb andn 12 Gb) on system-restore, and the amount of "volume
shrinkage" I could get on the 750Gb drive was only 350 Gb. Figgers.
So I blow away Windows, leaving the restore partitions just in case.

The Debian install goes pretty smooth, except for the following issues:

- Took me awhile to get my fluxbox startup to work right. I started
with the Slim window-manager, ended up with a more
standards-complient one called LightDM, and got that worked out.
- Network manager wouldn't let me connect. I ended up finding an
obscure policy file that I had to install in /etc/polkit-1 or some
such directory.
- The system would freeze HARD after some minutes of using the UI.
It would run a long time just copying stuff, but the UI fairly
consistently froze. Bummer. Linux 3.2 kernel.

I finally ended up downloading Linux 3.5.2 (the latest stable release),
and configured that and built and installed it using Debian's
kernel-package. That turned out to be pretty straightforward, though we
shall see how well it works with the VirtualBox package. At any rate, I
was able to exercise audio and video playing Big Buck Bunny and doing a
bunch of other stuff without freezing.

I'm not sure I'd recommend this machine for someone who wanted a
hassle-free Linux install. I'm disappointed in Toshiba's approach to
this new piece of hardware. And I wish Debian would track the latest
stable kernel releases.

YOU are the one constantly showing off about this transaction
manager. You are the one citing this particular project YOU created that
pisses all over WIndows based ones. So YOU cough up the open source for
this.
You wont of course, because you're a smelly cellar dwelling sad packer
who has never contributed a thing but expects everyone else to spoon
feed you. Your history as a fraud a liar is there for all to see.
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#1 Hadron
August 20th, 2012 - 09:24 am ET | Report spam
Chris Ahlstrom writes:

Bought that this weekend. The big attraction? A bit more RAM, more
cores, and even more battery life, at the same pricepoint as my old
Acer Aspire 4810T. The downside? 6Gb instead of 8, and some



Erm, "A bit more RAM" ...

Oh dear me.

Toshiba/Microsoft trickery.



Oh dear lord ... No one forced you to buy it.
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#2 White Spirit
August 20th, 2012 - 10:07 am ET | Report spam
On Monday, August 20, 2012 2:24:28 PM UTC+1, Hadron wrote:

Chris Ahlstrom writes:

> Toshiba/Microsoft trickery.

Oh dear lord ... No one forced you to buy it.



I can't help wondering how diligent was his research into that laptop.
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#3 Chris Ahlstrom
August 20th, 2012 - 10:45 am ET | Report spam
After swilling some grog, Chris Ahlstrom belched this bit o' wisdom:

Bought that this weekend. The big attraction? A bit more RAM, more
cores, and even more battery life, at the same pricepoint as my old
Acer Aspire 4810T. The downside? 6Gb instead of 8, and some
Toshiba/Microsoft trickery.

I had looked at some discounted variations on HP Pavilions dv6 models,
but read that they supported UEFI, and you needed a Windows install
disk to get around it.

So I buy the Toshiba, turn it on, stick in a Debian net-install disk
and... it boots to Windows. Try it again, but no hot-key to access the
boot order or the BIOS. WTF? I wanted to avoid booting to Windows 7.

So I google and find that the BIOS settings are accessed by a Windows
app (!!!) that Toshiba supplies. I use that app to change the boot
order, and then double-check the rest of the settings, and left them
alone.



Ah, buried in a manual I found online, in the sections on "Recovery",
is a note that F12 will bring up the boot menu. It works. Too bad
they don't flash a message about that key at startup.

It's funny (in a sad way) reading the responses in the Toshiba forum to
questions about reflashing the BIOS using Linux or FreeDOS instead of
Windows.

Another good night not to sleep in a eucalyptus tree.
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#4 Clogwog
August 20th, 2012 - 04:17 pm ET | Report spam
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After swilling some grog, Chris Ahlstrom belched this bit o' wisdom:

Bought that this weekend. The big attraction? A bit more RAM, more
cores, and even more battery life, at the same pricepoint as my old
Acer Aspire 4810T. The downside? 6Gb instead of 8, and some
Toshiba/Microsoft trickery.

I had looked at some discounted variations on HP Pavilions dv6 models,
but read that they supported UEFI, and you needed a Windows install
disk to get around it.

So I buy the Toshiba, turn it on, stick in a Debian net-install disk
and... it boots to Windows. Try it again, but no hot-key to access the
boot order or the BIOS. WTF? I wanted to avoid booting to Windows 7.

So I google and find that the BIOS settings are accessed by a Windows
app (!!!) that Toshiba supplies. I use that app to change the boot
order, and then double-check the rest of the settings, and left them
alone.



Ah, buried in a manual I found online, in the sections on "Recovery",
is a note that F12 will bring up the boot menu. It works. Too bad
they don't flash a message about that key at startup.

It's funny (in a sad way) reading the responses in the Toshiba forum to
questions about reflashing the BIOS using Linux or FreeDOS instead of
Windows.



Please stop whining and buy a Linux laptop, you trolling clown!
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http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-laptop.html
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to wireless, video card and Ethernet card. And here is exact model names &
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before purchasing system):
Dell sales Ubuntu Laptop in USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Spain and
Latin America. (See official Ubuntu page). Dell India also sales high end
Redhat Linux based laptop for business use.
HCL provides Ubuntu / Redhat / Fedora Linux based laptop in India.
Acer India provide Aspire series Linux based laptop in India.
HP Novell / Suse Linux certification and support matrix for HP laptops.
Asus Linux based eeepc netbooks in USA, India, UK, and various other places
across the globe.
EmperorLinux provides Linux laptops with full hardware support under Linux
in USA.
LinuxCertified provide Linux laptop and support in USA.
Linuxemporium provide Linux laptop and support in UK.
System76 provides Ubuntu Linux laptop and support in USA and Canada.
Zareason provides Ubuntu Linux laptop in USA, but claims to ship to many
other places across the globe."
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#5 Torre Starnes
August 20th, 2012 - 06:05 pm ET | Report spam
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:27:40 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

Bought that this weekend. The big attraction? A bit more RAM, more
cores, and even more battery life, at the same pricepoint as my old
Acer Aspire 4810T. The downside? 6Gb instead of 8, and some
Toshiba/Microsoft trickery.



Why didn't you buy a Linux pre-loaded laptop?
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