The novelty is wearing off.

August 17th, 2012 - 06:48 am ET by T i m | Report spam
Hi all,

I think I'm getting bored with Linux. I really hoped it would be a
real and maintenance free alternative to Windows but alas, no, not yet
anyway. In fact I'd say Android (although 'a' Linux, not Linux as we
talk about it here) does more for me than Linux can, even OOTB.
Probably because it's better matched to more hardware and is designed
more as a solution than a hobby.

The same applies to many of the people I have installed it for (many
but not all mind) but that can also include those who do use it as
their default OS because of the potential need to reinstall
every_so_often (like with Mint etc). [1]

But then the same applies with those running U10.04 and then what
happens when they upgrade to 12.04 and end up with something
completely different (and all their desktop icons missing) courtesy of
Unity.

There are just so many issues and gotchas, possibly partly because
I've experienced Linux over such a large range of 'random / not
especially Linux approved hardware', plus I have no interest in doing
all the dungeons_and_dragons stuff, every time something *doesn't*
just work OOTB or needs special treatment because it isn't
specifically supported directly (so you have to run Windows apps under
WINE or in a VM etc).

However, I'll probably keep it on my own machines and will consider
offering it to others ... I just wish there was this 'core distro'
that would just roll on in the same way that XP has for me over the
last 11 years (and as I hope W7 might for another 7 years).

Ho hum ...

Cheers, T i m


[1] One is happy to use Linux for a bit of web browsing but can't
print from Linux (I can't make it work) and has to struggle with a
very tired Vista install because of a need for iTunes etc.
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#1 Beauregard T. Shagnasty
August 17th, 2012 - 08:52 am ET | Report spam
T i m wrote:

Hi all,

I think I'm getting bored with Linux.



Bye, then. Have a pleasant life.

[1] One is happy to use Linux for a bit of web browsing but can't print
from Linux (I can't make it work)



That's only because you're strictly a Windows guy who doesn't read
instructions. Keerist, I purchased a new HP networkable printer a couple
years ago, plugged it into my router, and Ubuntu (probably 10.04?) popped
up a window saying "AHA! A printer has been detected. It appears to be an
HP <model>. Would you like to make it your default printer?"

You of course just closed the window. I of course began printing stuff.

-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high
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#2 Norman Peelman
August 17th, 2012 - 09:00 am ET | Report spam
On 08/17/2012 06:48 AM, T i m wrote:
Hi all,

I think I'm getting bored with Linux. I really hoped it would be a
real and maintenance free alternative to Windows but alas, no, not yet
anyway. In fact I'd say Android (although 'a' Linux, not Linux as we
talk about it here) does more for me than Linux can, even OOTB.
Probably because it's better matched to more hardware and is designed
more as a solution than a hobby.

The same applies to many of the people I have installed it for (many
but not all mind) but that can also include those who do use it as
their default OS because of the potential need to reinstall
every_so_often (like with Mint etc). [1]

But then the same applies with those running U10.04 and then what
happens when they upgrade to 12.04 and end up with something
completely different (and all their desktop icons missing) courtesy of
Unity.




I won't 'upgrade' to 12.04 as I'm not into the Unity desktop, though
I could install a different one I just don't feel like it right now.

There are just so many issues and gotchas, possibly partly because
I've experienced Linux over such a large range of 'random / not
especially Linux approved hardware', plus I have no interest in doing
all the dungeons_and_dragons stuff, every time something *doesn't*
just work OOTB or needs special treatment because it isn't
specifically supported directly (so you have to run Windows apps under
WINE or in a VM etc).

However, I'll probably keep it on my own machines and will consider
offering it to others ... I just wish there was this 'core distro'
that would just roll on in the same way that XP has for me over the
last 11 years (and as I hope W7 might for another 7 years).

Ho hum ...

Cheers, T i m


[1] One is happy to use Linux for a bit of web browsing but can't
print from Linux (I can't make it work) and has to struggle with a
very tired Vista install because of a need for iTunes etc.





I can't tell you the last time I had to re-install my system... oh
wait, it's because I haven't had too. In fact, I just finally got around
to applying updates after upgrading to 10.04 - over 400 updates across 4
different installed desktops and zero problems.

Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
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#3 OscarMonkeyGuru
August 17th, 2012 - 09:01 am ET | Report spam
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

I purchased a new HP networkable printer a couple
years ago, plugged it into my router, and Ubuntu (probably 10.04?) popped
up a window saying "AHA! A printer has been detected. It appears to be an
HP <model>. Would you like to make it your default printer?"




I've had my HP6620 network printer running under Ubuntu for some years, only
had to answer that question once on this box and once on the previous box.
Upgrades just looked after it. Of course I have to keep the driver CD for
the Windows laptops.



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#4 T i m
August 17th, 2012 - 09:10 am ET | Report spam
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:52:51 +0000 (UTC), "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
wrote:

T i m wrote:

Hi all,

I think I'm getting bored with Linux.



Bye, then. Have a pleasant life.



Where are you going then?

[1] One is happy to use Linux for a bit of web browsing but can't print
from Linux (I can't make it work)



That's only because you're strictly a Windows guy who doesn't read
instructions.



Oh? Not because the printer might be a bit tricky under Linux?

Keerist, I purchased a new HP networkable printer a couple
years ago, plugged it into my router, and Ubuntu (probably 10.04?) popped
up a window saying "AHA! A printer has been detected. It appears to be an
HP <model>. Would you like to make it your default printer?"



Sorry, were you going somewhere with that as it just seems to have
fizzled out?

You of course just closed the window. I of course began printing stuff.



Nope, I did just the same with my HP 2015dn and Linux but again, that
wasn't this old Brother printer that wasn't shown on the Brother Linux
supported printer list.

So, if you get a point, please come back here with it.

Cheers, T i m
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#5 T i m
August 17th, 2012 - 09:15 am ET | Report spam
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:00:37 -0400, Norman Peelman
wrote:

On 08/17/2012 06:48 AM, T i m wrote:
Hi all,

I think I'm getting bored with Linux. I really hoped it would be a
real and maintenance free alternative to Windows but alas, no, not yet
anyway. In fact I'd say Android (although 'a' Linux, not Linux as we
talk about it here) does more for me than Linux can, even OOTB.
Probably because it's better matched to more hardware and is designed
more as a solution than a hobby.

The same applies to many of the people I have installed it for (many
but not all mind) but that can also include those who do use it as
their default OS because of the potential need to reinstall
every_so_often (like with Mint etc). [1]

But then the same applies with those running U10.04 and then what
happens when they upgrade to 12.04 and end up with something
completely different (and all their desktop icons missing) courtesy of
Unity.




I won't 'upgrade' to 12.04 as I'm not into the Unity desktop, though
I could install a different one I just don't feel like it right now.



But if you don't (upgrade) then aren't you running an 'unsupported'
install of Linux?

There are just so many issues and gotchas, possibly partly because
I've experienced Linux over such a large range of 'random / not
especially Linux approved hardware', plus I have no interest in doing
all the dungeons_and_dragons stuff, every time something *doesn't*
just work OOTB or needs special treatment because it isn't
specifically supported directly (so you have to run Windows apps under
WINE or in a VM etc).

However, I'll probably keep it on my own machines and will consider
offering it to others ... I just wish there was this 'core distro'
that would just roll on in the same way that XP has for me over the
last 11 years (and as I hope W7 might for another 7 years).

Ho hum ...

Cheers, T i m


[1] One is happy to use Linux for a bit of web browsing but can't
print from Linux (I can't make it work) and has to struggle with a
very tired Vista install because of a need for iTunes etc.





I can't tell you the last time I had to re-install my system... oh
wait, it's because I haven't had too.



So you just run an out of date system (after whatever time be it LTS
and non LTS. If we are talking Ubuntu that is)? Whilst that's your
call I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be considered 'ideal' by anyone?

In fact, I just finally got around
to applying updates after upgrading to 10.04 - over 400 updates across 4
different installed desktops and zero problems.



Who mentioned 'problems'? (mike, why *are* these Linux people sooo
defensive ...?).

I was just talking about what I don't like about Linux and giving it
to other people (for the same reason). I didn't suggest it wasn't
perfect for you or *anyone* else.

Cheers, T i m
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