OT: Antietam Creek

June 18th, 2012 - 08:48 am ET by Gregory | Report spam
We, on this side of the pond are coming up on the 150th anniversary
of the Battle of Antietam, or Battle of Sharpsburg as it's known in the
south. A very dark chapter in the History of these United States.

The weather being perfect for a drive in the country yesterday, I
decided to make the 50 mile trip to Washington County, Maryland
and see first hand what took place there.

Have been researching deeply into this area in recent years, but the
topic may be too OT or sensitive for the group, so will limit it to TWO
photos.

View from center of the battleground (crest of hill near Dunker Church)
http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4767.jpg

Another view along the same line from the opposite direction:
http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4811_1.jpg


This on is Lol.

Was able to spot an photograph a redneck near Harpers Ferry, West
Virginia across the Potomac and along the railroad tracks:

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4832_redneck.jpg

So there you have it. What a photo op!!! :))


-G
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#1 Danny
June 19th, 2012 - 02:35 pm ET | Report spam
I would love to visit that area...Gettysburg, too. Great shot of the snake
rail fence, too.
Don't understand why the man on the riding lawnmower is considered to be a
redneck?
Is it the suspenders or the T-shirt or maybe the jeans?







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We, on this side of the pond are coming up on the 150th anniversary
of the Battle of Antietam, or Battle of Sharpsburg as it's known in the
south. A very dark chapter in the History of these United States.

The weather being perfect for a drive in the country yesterday, I
decided to make the 50 mile trip to Washington County, Maryland
and see first hand what took place there.

Have been researching deeply into this area in recent years, but the
topic may be too OT or sensitive for the group, so will limit it to TWO
photos.

View from center of the battleground (crest of hill near Dunker Church)
http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4767.jpg

Another view along the same line from the opposite direction:
http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4811_1.jpg


This on is Lol.

Was able to spot an photograph a redneck near Harpers Ferry, West
Virginia across the Potomac and along the railroad tracks:

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4832_redneck.jpg

So there you have it. What a photo op!!! :))


-G
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#2 Gregory
June 20th, 2012 - 09:50 am ET | Report spam
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:35:20 -0400, "Danny" o m>
brought the following to our attention:

I would love to visit that area...Gettysburg, too. Great shot of the snake rail fence, too.
Don't understand why the man on the riding lawnmower is considered to be a redneck?
Is it the suspenders or the T-shirt or maybe the jeans?




Danny,

Let's look at the coords in Google Earth where the supposed redneck
was mower-riding. I though anyone out in the country, especially the
hills that rides a mower on the street was a redneck. Maybe not?

Mower man photo coords: 39.326033°, -77.709896°

You can see the Rt. 340 overpass ahead (also in photo) and the rail
tunnel at the tip of South Mountain about 1/2 mile to the west. So you
have mountains, railroad tracks and a hick riding lawn mower on the
street. Wonder if he was sober? { chuckle }


Antietam Maps

There's an excellent overview of strategic and tactical operations at
Antietam on the US Army Center of Military History webpage:

http://www.history.army.mil/StaffRi...erview.htm

(each map can be clicked for a LARGE view)


Basically the Rebels invaded Maryland by crossing the Potomac at
Leesburg, and I'd imagine Washington (Pres. Lincoln) and especially the
Pennsylvania Corps didn't think that was such a good move at all..!!

Soon after.. the Union Army went about blasting General Lee and his
troops back into Virginia, and that they did. Maybe Lee was following
order from the agitators back in Richmond and Charleston?


Battlefield

When you first walk into the Visitors Center on site, the following
LARGE full-wall print (of orig photo by Gardner) is lit against a black
background and "in your face." It seems to celebrate death.

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4776_entrance.jpg


The QUOTE on the wall to the upper right reads:

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/IMG_4778_quote.jpg


Well.. what the hell does that mean: "We cannot know?"


You can search for the 1862 photos by Alexander Gardner, and there's
another officer, Captain James Hope who painted murals of the scene.


-G



Of all the days on all the fields where American soldiers have fought,
the most terrible by almost any measure was September 17, 1862. The
battle waged on that date, close by Antietam Creek at Sharpsburg in
western Maryland, took a human toll never exceeded on any other single
day in the nation's history. So intense and sustained was the violence,
a man recalled, that for a moment in his mind's eye the very landscape
around him turned red.

- Stephen W. Sears, Historian, "Landscape Turned Red," 1983
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#3 Copter_Six
June 22nd, 2012 - 01:51 am ET | Report spam
On 6/20/2012 8:50 AM, Gregory wrote:


Antietam Maps

There's an excellent overview of strategic and tactical operations at
Antietam on the US Army Center of Military History webpage:

http://www.history.army.mil/StaffRi...erview.htm

(each map can be clicked for a LARGE view)





I lived withing walking distance east of Harpers Ferry back in 65-66. I
didn't realize all the history of the place.




Copter Six


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#4 Gregory
June 22nd, 2012 - 08:38 am ET | Report spam
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:51:34 -0500, Copter_Six brought
the following to our attention:

Antietam Maps

There's an excellent overview of strategic and tactical operations at
Antietam on the US Army Center of Military History webpage:

http://www.history.army.mil/StaffRi...erview.htm

(each map can be clicked for a LARGE view)




I lived withing walking distance east of Harpers Ferry back in 65-66.
didn't realize all the history of the place.




Bob, the only places east of Harpers Ferry are Sandy Hook Road (or
mower-man road) and a small point of West Virginia land. What you're
looking at below are the three corners of Virginia, West Virginia and
Maryland (gray lines.. also driving route from Leesburg.)

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Harpers_Ferry_256.png


Y' ought to come back up this way some time!!


The following is NOT to ignite a flame, or go on a political rant, and
I'll have no further comments on the subject. It's to stimulate thought.
Do you notice anything in the ink rendering below? any perps, a handler
or money bag-man?

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Confederate_Cabinet_256.png


The individual below was an interesting figure with a long wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._McClellan


As was this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Pinkerton


Enough already!


-G
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#5 Quilljar
June 22nd, 2012 - 08:56 am ET | Report spam
No offence or emotions stirred for me here in the UK.
I daresay references to our civil war, when Cromwell had the king beheaded,
has the same yawn effect in the USA!

Q
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