Will Windows Mail remain?

On 11/22/2011 12:26 PM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:45:11 -0500, Nil
wrote:

On 22 Nov 2011, BeeJ wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

So what are the great dislikes about WLM?

The most recent version of WLM (ver. 15, aka WLM 2011) is unable to
mark material quoted from previous messages from your own words. As far
as the reader can see, you wrote both. It's guaranteed to create
misunderstanding and confusion - which is precisely what a newsreader
is supposed to help avoid. Microsoft has shown no sign of fixing their
broken product.

I get the impression that Microsoft have a long term agenda that
includes getting everyone to use their web offerings. They have
already abandoned their newsgroups and want people to use their web
forums.

MS did that to keep down the noise level, and to stop the Linux trolls
from destroying threads.

They will soon make their email clients unusable and start
plugging message orientation soon. Don't send an email, send a
message. Use side posting. Threads on left, messages on the right.

You do have your fingers on the heart and plus of it. Huh?

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:53:28 -0500, Nil
wrote:

On 22 Nov 2011, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I get the impression that Microsoft have a long term agenda that
includes getting everyone to use their web offerings. They have
already abandoned their newsgroups and want people to use their
web forums.

I don't usually like conspiracy theories, but this smells of one. Why
else would Microsoft break features that were previously working, and
then decline to fix them? Surely they know all about it. It's not an
obscure bug, it affects a major function of the program. The only
explanation that makes sense to me is that they are intentionally
trying to damage Usenet by making the experience worse for everyone.

Exactly. It's not a conspiracy as it is already happening. Microsoft
have already abandoned their own newsgroups and created lots of web
forums for the same topics. Less and less MVP's are using newsgroups
and have moved to web forums. That process started quite a long time
ago. I can't stand having to use web forums because it's far too
clumsy to have to check one at a time for updates when newsgroups were
all in one place.

Steve

Neural network software applications, help and support.

Neural Network Software. www.npsl1.com
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:21:56 -0700, XS11E wrote:

BeeJ wrote:

I am trying to find an eMail client and a newsreader to use.
Trying Thunderbird and WLM and ...

I've found better results using separate clients for each, I use
Pegasus Mail for email and Xnews for newsgroups.

I use Pegasus for mail and Free Agent for news.

Pegasus = http://www.pmail.com/
Note links to the support section, there are very good forums.

But Pegasus is not good if you want all the latest malware and viruses on your
computer.

One thing about it, though -- I can read all the mail I've saved over the last
13 years, and even reply to it -- can you do that with Windows Live Mail or
irs predecessors?


Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

So there's NOBODY who can answer his question then?


Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:57:26 -0500, Big Steel
wrote:

On 11/22/2011 12:26 PM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:45:11 -0500, Nil
wrote:

On 22 Nov 2011, BeeJ wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

So what are the great dislikes about WLM?

The most recent version of WLM (ver. 15, aka WLM 2011) is unable to
mark material quoted from previous messages from your own words. As far
as the reader can see, you wrote both. It's guaranteed to create
misunderstanding and confusion - which is precisely what a newsreader
is supposed to help avoid. Microsoft has shown no sign of fixing their
broken product.

I get the impression that Microsoft have a long term agenda that
includes getting everyone to use their web offerings. They have
already abandoned their newsgroups and want people to use their web
forums.

MS did that to keep down the noise level, and to stop the Linux trolls
from destroying threads.

That was their excuse but the web forums are too clumsy to check.

They will soon make their email clients unusable and start
plugging message orientation soon. Don't send an email, send a
message. Use side posting. Threads on left, messages on the right.

You do have your fingers on the heart and plus of it. Huh?

I went through the same email to message move on another platform
years ago. It didn't work but the management insisted it was the way
to go for privacy reason. Their messages were private but everything
was available to them.

Steve

Neural network software applications, help and support.

Neural Network Software. www.npsl1.com
EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com
SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com
JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com