Windows Updates is offering MS Office 2007 updates -> but I have Office 2000 installed (?)

On 02 Jun 2012, "BillW50" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

That is because I explain this over and over again and dupes like
you still don't get it. And unlike dupes like you, some of us push
our software to the limits.

Oh, and another thing: how exactly did you "push Office 97 to its
limits" in order to make it "crash all the time"? Please be as specific
as you can. I'm truly curious, because I saw people do the most bizarre
things with Excel and Word, and I never saw it crash all the time.
Maybe once in a blue moon, but "all the time"... never. I used to use
Access extensively, and if it ever crashed, it was something I did with
VBA, not the program itself. Very stable and reliable.

On 02 Jun 2012, "BillW50" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Where does it say Office 97 updates are found at
www.microsoft.com/office at the link you had posted, Glen? I see
goodies that Office 97 users can use, but nothing about updates.
Are you really that incompetent?

As he mentioned before, that's an old site that's not used any more.
That's why he used the word "WAS". That means, "past tense".

Office 97 updates are still available at

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...x?q=office

All you have to do is search for Office 97 in the search bar at the top
of the page. Is that really so hard?

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Nil typed:

On 02 Jun 2012, "BillW50" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

That is because I explain this over and over again and dupes like
you still don't get it. And unlike dupes like you, some of us push
our software to the limits.

Apparently, you missed it where I said I supported hundreds of
Office 97 users. Developers and salesmen who pushed it to the
limits every day. They could break things even worse than you could.

Apparently you missed kaplinb post:

If you're using Office 97, you have my condolences. It's
unstable, ornery, and lacks all sorts of important features
that appeared in Office 2000. That said, I know many of you
plod along with it, and I know how hard it is to get the bean
counters (and even, surprisingly, the IT folks in some shops)
to get with the system. -- kaplinb

And kaplinb knows and admits that even some IT people don't get it. And
what you don't get Nil is some people like kaplinb and others are light
years ahead. So it is totally understandable why you don't get it.

Some people has problems, usually with everything they touched. Most
had no problems. Guess which category you fall into?

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6129_10...n-word-97/

You are not very bright Nil! Some people find problems very fast that
many will never find in a thousand years. You confuse dummies with those
that are gifted. I understand if you are not very bright and how that
could be very confusing. No big deal, most don't get it anyway. But
there are many pros who do.

Did you even bother to read that? It's about an issue with a Paradox
ODBC driver, not Office 97. I've never been able to make Access work
properly with Paradox database files under any version of Office.

http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sh...-on-WinXP-(Off-97-SR1)

Did you even bother to read that? It's an unspecific unsupported
rant about an old version without the latest Service Pack. You'd
have to be an idiot to draw any conclusion from that, or even
mention it.

Yes I did and kaplinb stated that Office 97 isn't worth using period.
And Bob stated that Office 97 is full of memory leaks and coupled with
Windows 98 with its own memory leaks that Office 97 would crash in a few
hours. Yes that is exactly what I had found as well. Why you couldn't
see this too? Well some people can't find their way out of a wet paper
bag either. Go figure.

Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

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Nil typed:

On 02 Jun 2012, "BillW50" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

That is because I explain this over and over again and dupes like
you still don't get it. And unlike dupes like you, some of us push
our software to the limits.

Oh, and another thing: how exactly did you "push Office 97 to its
limits" in order to make it "crash all the time"? Please be as
specific as you can. I'm truly curious, because I saw people do the
most bizarre things with Excel and Word, and I never saw it crash all
the time. Maybe once in a blue moon, but "all the time"... never. I
used to use Access extensively, and if it ever crashed, it was
something I did with VBA, not the program itself. Very stable and
reliable.

I found the same thing that Bob had found. Both Office 97 and Windows 98
had memory leaks and sooner or later Office 97 would crash. Office 97
coupled with Windows 2000 or later might be ok, since Windows 2000 and
later didn't have that System Resource limit that Windows 98 did. So the
memory leaks in Office 97 didn't really mean much as all it did is to
eat more VM and it probably could stay stable.

I don't remember much about Office 97 and Windows 2000. As when I was
running Windows 2000 (thank goodness) I was also quickly running Office
2000 (also thank goodness) which worked well together. Stable as a rock
for me. Later Windows versions like XP, Windows 7 and 8, Office 2000
was/is still stable. And so far it does everything that I need that I
see no reason to go to a later version of Office. Office 2003 was/is a
bit tempting though, but not worth the price for me.

Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2

On 02 Jun 2012, "BillW50" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

And kaplinb knows and admits that even some IT people don't get
it. And what you don't get Nil is some people like kaplinb and
others are light years ahead. So it is totally understandable why
you don't get it.

Who is this "kaplinb" and why do you put so much stock in his
unsupported, unspecific rant? Do you know him personally, or have some
insight as to what, specifically, he's referring to?

You are not very bright Nil! Some people find problems very fast
that many will never find in a thousand years. You confuse dummies
with those that are gifted. I understand if you are not very
bright and how that could be very confusing. No big deal, most
don't get it anyway. But there are many pros who do.

Did you even bother to read that? It's about an issue with a
Paradox ODBC driver, not Office 97. I've never been able to make
Access work properly with Paradox database files under any
version of Office.

So, you decline to address the point that their problem was with the
ODBC driver, and not Office. OK, I though you would.

Yes I did and kaplinb stated that Office 97 isn't worth using
period. And Bob stated that Office 97 is full of memory leaks and
coupled with Windows 98 with its own memory leaks that Office 97
would crash in a few hours. Yes that is exactly what I had found
as well. Why you couldn't see this too? Well some people can't
find their way out of a wet paper bag either. Go figure.

So, you decline to address the point that this anonymous person is
ranting about an old, unpatched version of Office, running on another
platform than the one under discussion. OK, I thought you would.